If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. It is not just the motocycles remember. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. This latest incident proves exactly that. I speak no language other than English. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. Controversial! Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. CK:I think not many people will notice. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. Me too. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. I am having this problem too. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. Carlton Kirby brings his True Tales of the Tour de France to Reading on Weds June 21, a little over a week before #TDF2023 , as he launches his new @BloomsburySport book, Sticky Bottle . How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? It just stays online forever. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. Its a massive operation. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. Seriously. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. A new bike is coming very soon! Terms and conditions of use. March 2, 2022 . Absolutely mad. Yep, thats my pick. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Twaddle. A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. Tel 01225 588855. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? 2008present unless otherwise stated. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? So poor . Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! He is now only four short. And, he is right about it. pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. Set the scene for us. Like this site? Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. Thanks to all who have signed. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. ), there is a thread in the. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. It is all kinds of stuff. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. Nah, Harmon is clued up. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. What you are talking about is a place in history. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. Cavendish swept to his second win at the Tour of Turkey with another . Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. Well ride that sympathy and see how far it takes us up the beach. Kirby remarks, Its not like a written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it. Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. The walls do move when they pile in too. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. And we have managed to cover his view on it. After my tweet he at least toned that down. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. We have to get him off eurosport. You have entered an incorrect email address! (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. Im a bit annoyed at myself because I lost my temper at the time. Cookies help us deliver our services. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. 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Most races have one unit but the Tour de France has four double-decker units. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. . Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. Yeah he does. Agreed. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. Pure invention; based on nothing. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's Discovery company. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. Baseless. CK: You need the details. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. Talk about what you know. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. Dan's stage guides at the giro a few years ago were great. View our media pack. What is the point? You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. 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